Transalp Engine Swaps
From GummyCarbs
Swap Candidates
The following engines should swap in with no modifications to the frame:
- Honda Hawk GT NT650 (known as the Honda Bros outside the US market)
- Honda Africa Twin XRV750 (RD04 or RD07)
- Honda Transalp XL650V
- Honda Transalp XL700V
- Honda Shadow VT750 (1998 - 2013)
The Honda NT650V and NT750V Deuville motor will not swap in, because they're shaft drive. It may be possible to put the head and cylinders onto a Hawk engine. The Deuville EFI throttle bodies may be usable on a 52-degree Honda EFI conversion.
The Rotax-made Aprilia 60-degree V-twin engines might be made to fit, but will require frame modifications. To my knowledge, this has never been done.
Engine Swap Details
NT650 Hawk GT
Exhaust
- This post shows the difference in front exhaust port angles between the Transalp and Hawk engines.
The latest Two Brothers Racing exhaust 1-1/2" at the exhaust port, 1-5/8" through the curves, 1-5/8" at the collector, to a 2" tail pipe to the muffler.
Modification
The Hawk 650 still has great aftermarket performance support. Hord Power is the best known supplier and modifier in the US. Hord Power commented on the Hawk GT forums:
The order of building hp into a Hawk goes:
Stock 47hp
Pipe/3.0 kit/pods 52hp
700 kit/cams 62hp
Stage 1 heads 67hp
Stage 2 heads 72hp
Flatslides +5hp
Stage 3 heads 80+hp and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and other $$$$$$$ stuff to make it "reliable."
XL650V
- Thunder Dan's engine swap. He put a 2003 XL650V engine into a 1988 XL600V.
XRV750
Transalp Friends Germany has details of fitting an XRV750 RD04 motor into a 1988 XL600V Transalp.
VT750
The 52-degree, chain-drive VT750 engine uses an inline crank pin, as opposed to the offset crank pins in the XL600V Transalp. This makes the VT750 sound more like a Harley Davidson, which uses a 45-degree engine with a single-pin crankshaft.
Skyliner on AdvRider says the 1993 - 2013 VT750 will bolt directly into a Transalp frame (Mar 25, 2024). Details:
- Transalp or NT650 camshafts fit
- Uses internal oiling, so 1991 NT650 heads fit, as well as Transalp 650 and Deuville heads. This allows Transalp 650 or XRV headers to fit.
- Ignition pickup is different.
- Gear shift shaft is shorter than the Transalp
Additional information from Skyliner about the clutch, firing order, cylinder heads, and exhaust (Feb 20, 2022). This post covers cooling plumbing and FCR carburetors.
Aprilia/Rotax 990
The Rotax 990 engine used in various Aprilia 1000 models might conceivably be made to fit into the Transalp frame. If so, it will definitely require custom mounting brackets, and may require the complete removal of the lower cradle from the frame. Aprilia uses the Rotax engine is a stressed member.
Hawkati on the Hawk GT Forum has fit an Aprilia Mille (Rotax 990) engine into a Hawk GT frame. There is a Youtube video showing the engine roughly fitted into the Hawk GT frame. Here is a link to the entire video series.
- The rear, top bolt fits nearly identically. (This corresponds to the upper mounting lug on the NT650 Hawk and XRV750 Africa Twin engines that's missing on the XL600V Transalp. The fitment is shown at 0:58 in the video)
- The front sprocket was 7mm high, requiring the engine to be tilted forward. (Explained at 1:27 in the video)
EFI Conversion
Rather than trying to source and/or tweak carburetors, it's probably best to use one of the aftermarket EFI systems that are now on the market.
Examples
These guys adapted Honda Deauville fuel injection to a Hawk GT motor.
EFI Systems
- Megasquirt
- Microsquirt
- Ignitech
- EcuMaster EMU
Throttle Bodies
The 2003+ SV650 uses 39mm throttle bodies. The 2017 model's throttle bodies are redesigned and "slimmer", according to Wikipedia.
The NT700V was sold in the US. It had 81x66mm bores with a 10:1 compression ratio, producing 65hp at 8000 RPM and 48.8 lb-ft of torque at 6,500 RPM. It's in the same 52-degree V-twin family as the Transalp, Hawk, and Africa Twin. Its throttle bodies are 40mm with 12-hole injectors. It appears that the NT700V used a fuel pump that provided something like 45 - 50 psi.
Specification Comparison
| Displacement | Horsepower | Torque | Bore x Stroke | Compression Ratio | Induction | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| XL600V | 583cc | 50 hp @ 8000 | 39.1 ft-lb @ 6000 | 75x66mm | 9.2:1 | 2x32mm Keihin CV |
| NT650 | 647cc | 56.1 hp @ 7897 | 43 lb-ft @ 6053 | 79x66mm | 9.2:1 | 2x36mm flat slide carburetor |
| XL650V | 647cc | 52 hp @ 7500 | 40 lb-ft @ 5500 | 79x66mm | 9.2:1 | 2x34mm flat slide CV |
| XL700V | 680.2cc | 59.1 hp @ 7750 | 44.3 lb-ft @ 5500 | 81x66mm | 10.0:1 | EFI 40mm throttle bodies |
| XR750 RD07 | 742cc | 62 hp @ 7500 | 46.2 lb-ft @ 6000 | 81x72mm | 9.0:1 | 2x38mm flat slide CV |
| VT750C | 745cc | 43 hp @ 5500 | 44 lb-ft @ 3000 | 79x76mm | 9.6:1 | 2x 36mm CV |
| Aprilia ETV1000 | 997.6cc | 98 hp @ 8250 | 71.5 lb-ft @ 6250 | 97x67.5mm | 10.4:1 | EFI 47mm throttle bodies |
Transmission Gear Ratios
| 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| XL600V | 2.571 | 1.777 | 1.380 | 1.125 | 0.961 | |
| NT650 | 2.769 | 1.882 | 1.450 | 1.174 | 0.965 | |
| XL650V/XL700V | 2.500 | 1.722 | 1.333 | 1.111 | 0.961 | |
| XRV750 | 3.083 | 2.062 | 1.550 | 1.272 | 1.083 | |
| Honda VT750C | 2.4 | 1.55 | 1.174 | 0.960 | 0.852 | |
| Aprilia Tuono | 2.26 | 1.63 | 1.3 | 1.09 | 0.96 | 0.88 |
| Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 / Falco SL1000 / Futura RST1000 | 2.5 | 1.75 | 1.368 | 1.091 | 0.957 | 0.852 |
The XRV's first gear is 20% lower, second is 16% lower, third is 12% lower, fourth is 13% lower, and fifth is 12% lower.