Transalp Brakes - Revision history

Jeff: /* DIY */

2008-05-21T18:06:09Z

DIY

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	==DIY==		==DIY==

	===Rotors===		===Rotors for Transalps===
	No upgraded rotors appear to be available for US Transalps. Rotors intended for some other bikes may work, however.		No upgraded rotors appear to be available for US Transalps. Rotors intended for some other bikes may work, however. In Europe, various brake upgrade kits have been sold.

	====NT650 Hawk====		====NT650 Hawk====
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	Since the diameter of the rotor is larger, a new brake caliper spacer is needed. This can be custom machined, or presumably the "Lenac" spacer can be obtained.		Since the diameter of the rotor is larger, a new brake caliper spacer is needed. This can be custom machined, or presumably the "Lenac" spacer can be obtained.

			====MAP Engineering====
			MAP Engineering used to produce an oversized rotor and caliper spacer kit for the Transalp. This has been discontinued. When contacted, they replied that they may be able to provide the oversize rotor (which is likely a Hawk rotor), but without the caliper spacer this isn't useful.

	====XR650L====		====XR650L====

Jeff: /* NT650 Hawk */

2008-05-21T18:04:00Z

NT650 Hawk

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	====NT650 Hawk====		====NT650 Hawk====
	The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information)~~. This~~ is the most ~~commonly used rotor in Transalp upgrades~~.		The Honda NT650 Hawk uses the same bolt pattern as the Transalp. The stock rotor is a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information), and this is probably the most common braking upgrade performed on Transalps.

	Several companies produce stock-size Hawk rotors:		Several companies produce stock-size Hawk rotors:
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	** Same as 1991-2003 CB750 Nighthawk, 1994-2003 VF750C Magna, 1991-2002 ST1100, 1995 ST1100A.		** Same as 1991-2003 CB750 Nighthawk, 1994-2003 VF750C Magna, 1991-2002 ST1100, 1995 ST1100A.
	* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]		* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]

			Since the diameter of the rotor is larger, a new brake caliper spacer is needed. This can be custom machined, or presumably the "Lenac" spacer can be obtained.

	====XR650L====		====XR650L====

Jeff: /* XR650L */

2008-05-21T18:02:19Z

XR650L

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	====XR650L====		====XR650L====
	The XR650L uses ~~the same rotor~~ bolt pattern, so aftermarket rotors for it ~~may~~ be used on the Transalp.		The XR650L uses a different bolt pattern (four bolt instead of five, I believe), so aftermarket rotors for it cannot be used on the Transalp.

	===Caliper Spacer===		===Caliper Spacer===

Jeff: /* NT650 Hawk */

2007-11-23T02:49:55Z

NT650 Hawk

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	The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information). This is the most commonly used rotor in Transalp upgrades.		The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information). This is the most commonly used rotor in Transalp upgrades.

	Several ~~brands~~ produce stock-size Hawk rotors:		Several companies produce stock-size Hawk rotors:
	* [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ EBC] MD1021LS [[Image:EBC_MD1021LS.jpg\|right]]		* [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ EBC] MD1021LS [[Image:EBC_MD1021LS.jpg\|right]]
	** Listed in the [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf EBC catalog] as an 'S/F' type, meaning floating conversion for solid rotors.		** Listed in the [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf EBC catalog] as an 'S/F' type, meaning floating conversion for solid rotors.

Jeff: /* Stock Rotor */

2007-11-23T02:49:16Z

Stock Rotor

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	=Stock ~~Rotor~~=		=Stock=

	The ~~stock~~ Honda ~~Transalp~~ rotor is 276mm in diameter.		The US-spec 1989 through 1992 Honda Transalps use a rigid rotor which is 276mm in diameter. The brake caliper is a floating, twin-piston unit.

	=Upgrades=		=Upgrades=

Jeff: /* Upgrades */

2007-11-23T02:48:11Z

Upgrades

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	*[http://www.transalp.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=3090&sid=73d63a30ae35a59a0ebcd4cd6334b6ce This thread] (transalp.org) discusses the Lenac Big Brake Kit.		*[http://www.transalp.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=3090&sid=73d63a30ae35a59a0ebcd4cd6334b6ce This thread] (transalp.org) discusses the Lenac Big Brake Kit.

	==~~Hawk Rotors~~==		==DIY==

	The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information).		===Rotors===
			No upgraded rotors appear to be available for US Transalps. Rotors intended for some other bikes may work, however.

			====NT650 Hawk====
			The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information). This is the most commonly used rotor in Transalp upgrades.

	Several brands produce stock-size Hawk rotors:		Several brands produce stock-size Hawk rotors:
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	* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]		* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]

	===Spacer===		====XR650L====
			The XR650L uses the same rotor bolt pattern, so aftermarket rotors for it may be used on the Transalp.

			===Caliper Spacer===
			With the larger diameter disc, a new spacer must be used to move the Transalp's brake caliper outward.

	[http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=792549 This thread] (advrider.com) mentions a guy making a spacer so you can use a stock Hawk rotor (316mm) on the TA (276mm stock).		[http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=792549 This thread] (advrider.com) mentions a guy making a spacer so you can use a stock Hawk rotor (316mm) on the TA (276mm stock).
	<pre>Anyway- potential very good news- I asked the guy who built a brake		<pre>Anyway- potential very good news- I asked the guy who built a brake
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	the "show me" thread) and it makes a difference.</pre>		the "show me" thread) and it makes a difference.</pre>

	==Sources and Prices==		===Sources and Prices===
	{\| border=1		{\| border=1
	! colspan="2" style="background:#ffdead;" \| EBC MD1021LS		! colspan="2" style="background:#ffdead;" \| EBC MD1021LS

Jeff: /* Upgrades */

2007-11-22T20:03:56Z

Upgrades

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	=Upgrades=		=Upgrades=

			==Kits==

			===Lenac===

			*[http://www.transalp.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=3090&sid=73d63a30ae35a59a0ebcd4cd6334b6ce This thread] (transalp.org) discusses the Lenac Big Brake Kit.

	==Hawk Rotors==		==Hawk Rotors==

Jeff at 23:21, 29 October 2007

2007-10-29T23:21:20Z

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	The stock Honda Transalp rotor is 276mm in diameter.		The stock Honda Transalp rotor is 276mm in diameter.

	=Hawk Rotors=		=Upgrades=

			==Hawk Rotors==

	The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information).		The Honda Hawk uses a solid (non-floating) 316mm rotor ([http://hawkworks.net/useful_info.html this page] has excellent Hawk information).
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	* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]		* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]

	==Spacer==		===Spacer===
	[http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=792549 This thread] (advrider.com) mentions a guy making a spacer so you can use a stock Hawk rotor (316mm) on the TA (276mm stock).		[http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=792549 This thread] (advrider.com) mentions a guy making a spacer so you can use a stock Hawk rotor (316mm) on the TA (276mm stock).
	<pre>Anyway- potential very good news- I asked the guy who built a brake		<pre>Anyway- potential very good news- I asked the guy who built a brake
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	the "show me" thread) and it makes a difference.</pre>		the "show me" thread) and it makes a difference.</pre>

	=Sources and Prices=		==Sources and Prices==

	~~==Hawk Rotors~~==
	{\| border=1		{\| border=1
	! colspan="2" style="background:#ffdead;" \| EBC MD1021LS		! colspan="2" style="background:#ffdead;" \| EBC MD1021LS
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	\| $185.35 \|\| AZ Motorsports		\| $185.35 \|\| AZ Motorsports
	\|}		\|}

	~~The Braking wave-rotor page is [http://www.braking.com/bk/sito.asp?pag=4 here].~~

Jeff: /* Hawk Rotors */

2007-10-29T22:53:11Z

Hawk Rotors

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	Several brands produce stock-size Hawk rotors:		Several brands produce stock-size Hawk rotors:
	* ~~[[Image:EBC_MD1021LS.jpg]]~~ [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ EBC] MD1021LS		* [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ EBC] MD1021LS [[Image:EBC_MD1021LS.jpg\|right]]
	** Listed in the [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf EBC catalog] as an 'S/F' type, meaning floating conversion for solid rotors.		** Listed in the [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf EBC catalog] as an 'S/F' type, meaning floating conversion for solid rotors.
	** Same as 1991-2003 CB750 Nighthawk, 1994-2003 VF750C Magna, 1991-2002 ST1100, 1995 ST1100A.		** Same as 1991-2003 CB750 Nighthawk, 1994-2003 VF750C Magna, 1991-2002 ST1100, 1995 ST1100A.
	* ~~[[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg]]~~ [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor)		* [http://www.brakingusa.com/ Braking] HO26FLD ('wave' or 'petal' style rotor) [[Image:Braking_Ho26fld_thumb.jpg\|right]]

	==Spacer==		==Spacer==

Jeff: /* Hawk Rotors */

2007-10-29T22:52:24Z

Hawk Rotors

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	Several brands produce stock-size Hawk rotors:		Several brands produce stock-size Hawk rotors:
	* [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ EBC] MD1021LS		* [[Image:EBC_MD1021LS.jpg]] [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/ EBC] MD1021LS
	** Listed in the [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf EBC catalog] as an 'S/F' type, meaning floating conversion for solid rotors.		** Listed in the [http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf EBC catalog] as an 'S/F' type, meaning floating conversion for solid rotors.
	** Same as 1991-2003 CB750 Nighthawk, 1994-2003 VF750C Magna, 1991-2002 ST1100, 1995 ST1100A.		** Same as 1991-2003 CB750 Nighthawk, 1994-2003 VF750C Magna, 1991-2002 ST1100, 1995 ST1100A.